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Poster: high flow Date: Apr 1, 2011 12:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Chicken or Egg

I have noticed that my fellow deadheads really LOVE music of all kinds.

So the question is...did the Grateful Dead inspire your love of all music? Or was the Grateful Dead a perfect fit for a music lover?

For me, the latter. I have absolutely LOVED music of all kinds for as long as I can remember. As a kid I'd borrow my dad's and my brother's records and play them again and again. As a pre-teen, I was glued to the radio on Sunday's from 1200-1400 when KPOO would play 2 hours of very early New York Rap. I wish I still had those crudely made tapes.

For me, discovering The Grateful Dead was like finding a soul-mate. A band that challenged the listener to expand horizons and embark on a new kind of journey. Music that never stopped.....wow. Yeah, that was for me.

So, I guess I'm the egg? My love for music led me to The Grateful Dead.

How about you? Any chickens out there? Ones who loved the Dead first and began to love "other" music from that point?

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Poster: wineland Date: Apr 1, 2011 12:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

My story is pretty much the same as yours. Early memories of playing Beatles and Beach Boys records on my parents record player. The kind that is a piece of furniture. It had a cabinet to hold the records, top slides to access the record player and tuner, big speakers on either side. Like the one in the picture attached. Anyways, I have always loved music and have been obsesive compulsive about researching and collecting things. The Dead filled all those traits of mine.

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Poster: splue Date: Apr 1, 2011 12:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

i luv the Beatles--the first song i bought of theirs was
free as a bird---it took me along time to learn their names,
Paul, Jeff, George and ringo!!

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Poster: barongsong Date: Apr 1, 2011 12:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Same I was a bit closed minded in my early hormone popping teens but before that I was pretty eclectic in my taste. So in a sense finding the Dead reconnected me back to a more broad minded perspective that was already there.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Apr 1, 2011 8:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Both?

I was definitely listening to lots of different music before i found the Grateful Dead and believe my interest in jazz at that time got me into their sound. However since rediscovering this music in 2005, i have expanded my music horizons even further (not Further). I listened to jazz and blues before, but not bluegrass or newgrass or whatever the Carolina Chocolate Drops play. I credit the grateful dead and to an extent this forum for opening my ears to these new sounds.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Apr 1, 2011 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bear, then me

I'm 100% the other way. But it's not Chicken or Egg? For me, it's Bear, then Monte. Here's my Orgy of Sound story. I owe everything to Bear, Ampex, Ron Wickersham, GD, and the crew.

Source:
good kid > punk from NJ > hippie > many concerts > counter-culture > NJ Deadhead encounter

Lineage:
GD shows > Taper > soundman > electronics career > Monte's Taper Handbook

The_bus01.jpg

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Poster: madmonkmcphee Date: Apr 1, 2011 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bear, then me

Rad ass picture Monte, you rock!

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Poster: olympiaroad Date: Apr 2, 2011 6:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Charlie Brown>Beethoven>piano lessons>Broadway musicals including Jesus Christ Superstar>found a Beatles songbook in the piano stool>Beatles>Stones>Zeppelin>("no, that's 'gay'. Here, put this Queen album on instead," said my fellow 8th graders at the party>Cars and other "new wave" acts>GRATEFUL DEAD who sing Alabama Getaway and Casey Jones, (oh, I guess that Mexican drawn on the album cover must sing Mexicali Blues...)GD tours 81-95>straightedge hardcore>postpunk>bluegrass>grunge>pretty much avoided the jam band movement b/c to me it seemed like one half-baked riff = a song>complete embrace of all music due to two major factors: everyone turning over their LP's to thrift stores and yard sales and this thing called the "internet">"anything goes day">Dime>hype machine>etc>all music including opera

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Apr 2, 2011 6:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Charlie Brown? Good choice for a beginning.

>Zeppelin>("no, that's 'gay'. Here, put this Queen album on instead," said my fellow 8th graders at the party

That's too funny!

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Poster: olympiaroad Date: Apr 3, 2011 5:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Yeah. True story. I was 2-3 years too late for coolness. The cool kids were also brandishing the Sat. Night Fever soundtrack.

And duh, I forgot a big link: Dylan. I got to him through the Beatles and the sum of those primordial acts got me to the GD.

By way of explanation, Charlie Brown comics got me into Beethoven.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Apr 3, 2011 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Could you play the theme on the piano? My brother played it incessantly. Actually, I think that's all my brother could play. That and Bryan's Song.

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Poster: olympiaroad Date: Apr 3, 2011 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

...no, but of course when I read this post initially, I thought it was a reference to ZOOM. Considering everyone here is from Weymouth and Quincy I'm sure I don't need to explain the reference!

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Poster: dogsinapile! Date: Apr 1, 2011 9:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Was raised in rural North Carolina listening to bluegrass and playing trombone in the church band. Through my dad I got into stuff like Bill Monroe, Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Emmylou Harris and then when I got old enough found out about New Grass Revival, Tony Rice, Doc Watson.

I guess the Grateful Dead were just the next logical step.

But the older I get the more I'm drawn back to that old-time music that I grew up on.

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Poster: deadhead53 Date: Apr 2, 2011 5:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

For me it was other music and I did not really get on the bus until college (90), In HS I was into metal bands like Iron Maiden and Motorhead, and then a little of the hair metal (love the satellite hair metal station and the GD station!) I was also into the early rap scene loved public enemy, run dmc and nwa, but I had always been a huge beatles and stones fan from listening to my dad's records when I was young. So I was all over the place musically. Then in 1990 it happened, while I liked some GD, when I got the 4/29/71 Fillmore 1st gen tape from a friend that was it! While I still love the metal scene and hair metal, the gd opened up a new world of music for me that I have been exploring ever since. GD has spawned my love for bands like the black crowes (too bad they are on hiatus), Gov't Mule (from my love of ABB and The Dead, moe., north mississppi all stars and many others. So for me it was other ones->GD->everything that came after!

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Poster: Ridge8649 Date: Apr 1, 2011 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

First got into Top 40 radio in the late 60s-early 70s, which was a tasty concoction of rock/pop/Motown/fluff, then into FM-album rock and prog/fusion mid-late 70s, and on into spiky new wave/punk/college radio in the early 80s. First saw The Dead at U. of Maryland in '81 and BAM POW added that to the stew along with dollops of reggae, Afropop, funk, Zappa. Guess I'm an egg, fried over easy.

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Poster: reviewr Date: Apr 1, 2011 2:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Music in general comes first for me.
At a real young age I use to sneak a small radio out of my parents' room and sleep with it under my pillow - mostly Top 40 (we're talking about early '70s). I liked some of this (Wings, Jim Croce), but later discovered much more interesting things. By late '70s I was listening to lots of Elton John. In early 80's Zepplin, Rush, Van Halen. Shortly after this I got into "classic rock" (Beatles, Stones). At this point I first dabbled in GD. In mid '80s I was lucky enough to meet some one with a huge record collection - stuff I never would of heard on the radio (Eno, Miles Davis, King Crimson, Zappa). At this point I was listening to lots of live GD and starting getting boot legs. In later years I got into all sorts of things: reggae, jazz, blues, Americana/folk, world. Recently a little Rap. I've really enjoyed all these different types of music at some point and still go back to them sometimes, but mostly it's GD for me now - always live.

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Apr 1, 2011 2:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

I've actually thought about this and have come to the conclusion that it was the British Blues scene did it for me. Fresh Cream, Savoy Brown,early Fleetwood Mac, THE NICE,TEN YEARS AFTER, Traffic and many others. Until the Airplane and Quicksilver hit big the west coast sound wasn't happening.Also at this time the Blues Project and Paul Butterfield were mainstays for the collage crowd..LW

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Poster: madmonkmcphee Date: Apr 1, 2011 12:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

I'm much the same as you high flow, grew up being influenced by what my parents were listening to. I am blessed with being brought up around music, starting to play drums at a very young age and listening to my parents' Elton John, Bob Dylan, Jim Croce records. It's more of a love for music that has brought me to Grateful Dead and coming to that world has led me to broaden my listening as well as playing. Mcphee ya later...

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Poster: user unknown Date: Apr 1, 2011 3:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

music first...Grateful Dead later

Music=Life GD4Ever

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Apr 1, 2011 12:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Nice post high flow. I agree with your observation - Deadheads are usually wide-ranging, eclectic, passionate, and tolerant of all kinds of music.

I'm much like you that way... I was blessed with parents who enjoyed a variety of stuff - Dixieland, swing, war-time jazz, classical, musicals. They used to play a record at night for all us kids to put us to sleep. I can sing show tunes and can tell Bach and Mozart apart, thanks to them.

They gave me a transistor radio when I was about 8, so I could listen to ball games and hockey... but I discovered rock 'n roll instead. I grew up with the Beatles, Motown and Dylan. (not to mention many others)

The GD will always be the bulk of my listening, but I can listen to opera, choral, classical, jazz, blues, folk, string band, rock etc at any time. (I'll leave rap out of it in deference to you - I like to think of that genre as a form of street poetry, just not my cup of tea.)

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Apr 2, 2011 3:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

Chicken, egg, chicken, egg, and some crossing of the road.

I got a radio for my b-day or Xmas in 2nd grade, and then proceeded to sneak-listen to the “crazy hippie music” my mom hated. That was '67 or '68, a fantastic time to hear music that wasn’t just infectious; it contained a kind of visionary idealism that was pretty inspiring to a kid. That era ended, so I made do, in high school, with what was around: Zeppelin, Floyd, ELO, Queen, Skynyrd. But I still had a great fondness for the Beatles and “old” 60s stuff (not really so old back then! It was like listening to music from 2000 right now. But it seemed a very long time ago then.)

Enter an older boyfriend -- hair to his waist, van, no good job, I still cannot believe my parents let me go out with him! -- who got me into experimental local music (Pere Ubu, Devo) along with eclectic stuff like Brian Eno, King Crimson, Philip Glass ... the weirder, the better. If it was "avante-garde" or psychedelic, I loved it. So that’s what I brought to freshman year in an all-girl’s dorm at a preppy college and played along with the Byrds and the Airplane and Yoko Ono and so on. In 1978. Um, I was not cool. I did not fit in.

One day at the cafeteria, looking around bleakly for anyone who looked relate-able, I saw someone else sitting alone -- a guy with hair to his waist, kinda slouched over like he didn’t fit in, either -- and we started talking music. He was really into this band I’d never heard of ... He had albums and a bunch of tapes ... Maybe I’d find them interesting ...

After starting to listen to the Band I’d Never Heard Of and going to my first shows about two months later, I really lost interest in mainstream rock completely. I went to some big rock concerts -- by, ya know, some other more popular bands -- but people didn't dance! And the music didn’t GO anywhere!!!

It pretty much became All Dead, All the Time for a while (plus music that was "avante-garde" and made bleepy sounds ... I really DID listen to Seastones). Then I got really into bluegrass and old-time music, as well as folk music, edgy punk (Dead Kennedys, Au Pairs), jazz, even opera. The common ingredient – and the connection to the GD – is that I just felt more interested in music that seemed to be made by real people, often pushed the envelope in various ways, "said" something worth hearing, and was inclined to be about the live experience.

So ... chicken or egg? Hard to say, but getting into the GD was both a kind of reflection of what I was interested in and a spur into different directions. Of course, life works that way, right?


This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2011-04-02 10:41:44

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Poster: high flow Date: Apr 2, 2011 11:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

"The common ingredient – and the connection to the GD – is that I just felt more interested in music that seemed to be made by real people, often pushed the envelope in various ways, "said" something worth hearing, and was inclined to be about the live experience."

My love of music lead me to The Grateful Dead, but you nailed it AR. After GD, I had new criteria for discovering bands.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 2, 2011 6:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg

"and “old” 60s stuff (not really so old back then! It was like listening to music from 2000 right now. But it seemed a very long time ago then.)"

So true. I was ten when I got the first DEAD album, but it was via the brothers...I liked them, instantly, but didn't start buying their stuff on my own til 70. No air time for young teenager. Loved all the 60s stuff, but as some of you recall that I returned to my "roots" recently, the first and only bands for which I bought each and every album as it came out were:

CREAM, and CCR. Others (almost) were Hendrix and Steppenwolf. Didn't hear enough of the the others, like the SF bands, til I was old enough to drive to Berkeley, go to record stores there, etc., etc.

DEAD took over then.